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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:57:08 -0400
From: "Park, Keith J (CRD)" <parkkj@crd.ge.com>
To: "'type3@vwtype3.org'" <type3@vwtype3.org>
Subject: [T3] OOH this works...
Message-Id: <F5151F240B94D011BC8D00805FFE7E1601357D1C@exc02crdge.crd.ge.com>
Well.. it seems Im up and running here again, at least for now. My messages seem to be getting
posted. New power supply, motherboard, harddrive, all reconfigured.
Anywho... I think it will stay going for a while till I get all this switched to home but to all
those with parts or info inquiry that is over 2 weeks old please email me back. I lost everything and
I know I was looking for a front badge for someone.
Back at the keyboard again!
Keith
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 10:03:24 -0400
From: "Park, Keith J (CRD)" <parkkj@crd.ge.com>
To: type3@vwtype3.org
Subject: RE: [T3] First snow of the season!
Message-Id: <F5151F240B94D011BC8D00805FFE7E1601357D1D@exc02crdge.crd.ge.com>
October 4th 1987.. Albany NY 6.6" snow! The year the trees fell before their leaves did!
Weird sight all that white and green.. outlying areas got 2 feet! I had the 73 Square then and thank
God that they weren't prepared to salt yet as salt on my rusty old 73 that early in the season would
have been a bad way to start the season
Ahh the old days that I drove in the salt, could get parts, occasionally saw another square,
had no garage, ....
Keith
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 07:07:00 -0700
From: "Erkson, Toby" <toby.erkson@intel.com>
To: "\"type3@vwtype3.org\" " <type3@vwtype3.org>
Subject: RE: [T3] Side Window Rubber
Message-Id: <199810161406.OAA12405@thalia.fm.intel.com>
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Hey Allen, while you're installing that line take some pictures! If you
write
me up a good procedure on what you did I'll put it on my T3Tech page.
Toby Erkson
air_cooled_nut@pobox.com <-- Please use this address for email
'72 VW Squareback 1.6L bored and stroked to 2.0L, Berg five-speed
'75 Porsche 914 1.8L, ORPCA member
Portland, Oregon, http://www.pobox.com/~toby_erkson/
>-----Original Message-----
> Its finally cooled down here in Texas and I am going to install
> my stainless steel center brake line tommorrow. This Square
> will FINALLY be back on the road with a mostly new brake system!
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:23:23 -0500
From: mekennedy@stkate.edu
To: type3@vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] First snow of the season!
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Well, you're hurting my Minnesota pride here--we aren't even cold enough to
snow yet! Just a thunderstorm this morning... 8) Good thing, too, 'cause
I think my square's going to storage for the winter... she's not running
anyway! ;)
Meghan
1971 Bright Orange Square
St. Paul, Minnesota
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 07:40:00 -0700
From: "Erkson, Toby" <toby.erkson@intel.com>
To: "\"type3@vwtype3.org\" " <type3@vwtype3.org>
Subject: RE: [T3] The Hill
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Jim, I gotta disagree with you on this detonation topic. It can happen at
higher RPM -- I've experienced it around 2600-3000rpm while trying to make
it up
a hill.
Higher compression engines, like my engine, that are at operating temp or
higher
can have preignition and detonation events occur, particularly while the
engine
is under load (driving up a hill or that damn mountain in Arizona y'all are
gabbing about) and too much gas is being delivered (heavy throttle). You
will
notice that backing off on the throttle stops this condition. Retarding the
spark advance will help as well but you may experience a loss in
acceleration
and power. Jacobs Electronics has a dash mounted module that allows one to
adjust their timing on the fly (i.e. while driving) -- very neat idea!
For those who don't know what detonation, or "pinging" as some refer to it,
is
when the air-fuel mixture suddenly explodes in the combustion chamber
instead of
burning. Sounds kind of funny, but the mixture normally gets used up in a
smoothly expanding burn. Detonation is the gas exploding, expanding *very*
rapidly and putting a LOT of stress on the pistons, rods and bearings.
If you don't know what it sounds like I'll give you the great example Jim
gave
me a while back: It sounds like there are a bunch of BB's or metal nuts
rattling around in your engine.
Toby Erkson
air_cooled_nut@pobox.com <-- Please use this address for email
'72 VW Squareback 1.6L bored and stroked to 2.0L, Berg five-speed
'75 Porsche 914 1.8L, ORPCA member
Portland, Oregon, http://www.pobox.com/~toby_erkson/
>-----Original Message-----
>
>Roasting yourself alive is pointless. Detonation is a low RPM
>phenomenum, even more common in a cold engine where the mixture is
>denser.
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:21:46 -0700
From: James MacNaughton <JMac@uglyduckling.com>
To: "'type3@vwtype3.org'" <type3@vwtype3.org>
Subject: RE: [T3] The Hill
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1971, Variant, Savannah Beige. Loaded with weird little options (rear
window defogger, and such).
> ----------
> From: Jim Adney[SMTP:jadney@vwtype3.org]
> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 1998 10:32 PM
> To: type3@vwtype3.org
> Subject: RE: [T3] The Hill
>=20
> On 15 Oct 98, at 9:01, James MacNaughton wrote:
> =20
> > (I actually meant After TDC, sorry!) I had two manuals at my =
disposal
> > when I was tuning it up before the trip; one said TDC (my manual), =
and a
> > friend who's a mechanic who's book sad 7 1/2=BA btdc. He made a
> compromise
> > and set it to 5,
>=20
> Let's clear up the timing question first. You have a FI T3. What=20
> year is it?
>=20
> Jim
> -
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> Madison, Wisconsin, USA
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:28:15 -0700
From: James MacNaughton <JMac@uglyduckling.com>
To: "'type3@vwtype3.org'" <type3@vwtype3.org>
Subject: RE: [T3] ignition weirdness
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In my 1953 Mercury you couldn't take the ignition out of the switch once it
was turned, my dad's 1946 Ford, you can't take the ignition out of the
switch once it's turned. I can't say for sure, but post war, I can't think
of any reason why any car company would intentionally let that happen
(somebody said it's dangerous, and it is!). As I said, I can't say for
sure, as VW did things very differently; oil-bath air cleaner on many models
through 1973 (GM had switched by 1959), 6-volt electrical system until like
1967 (The big three were all 12 by 1956).
I don't remember what year the car in question is, but my 73 Bug had the
same deal, I went to BAP and bought a new switch for $20 or so. Just my
opinion.
> ----------
> From: Ginger D.&Peter P.[SMTP:gingerd@teleport.com]
> Reply To: gingerd@teleport.com
> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 1998 9:42 PM
> To: type3-list
> Subject: Re: [T3] ignition weirdness
>
> So does anyone know when the locking steering wheel started. My wheel
> does not lock, but I pulled an ignition from a '66 wreck that looks like
> it does. I don't remember a mention of it in my owners manual....
>
> Peter Parker
> '66 Square; Phillip
> Portland, OR
>
> >Jim Adney wrote:
> >I don't remember what year we are talking about, but in the US I think we
> got the >steering lock in about 69.
>
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:38:46 -0700
From: James MacNaughton <JMac@uglyduckling.com>
To: "'type3@vwtype3.org'" <type3@vwtype3.org>
Subject: RE: [T3] First snow of the season!
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Hey now, it snowed here (Phoenix) for about 8 minutes in 1990!
> ----------
> From: Philip Dillard[SMTP:dillardp@edu-suu-lifac.li.suu.edu]
> Reply To: Dillard@suu.edu
> Sent: Friday, October 16, 1998 12:55 AM
> To: type3@vwtype3.org
> Subject: [T3] First snow of the season!
>
> Here in Cedar City, Utah, we have gotten our first snow storm of the
> season...6 inches and still coming down.
>
> My wife had trouble keeping her Chevy pickup on the road this
> morning, but my Squareback thrives on this stuff!
>
> Who else around the country (or world) has gotten an earlier
> first snow storm? This contest is open to all people in the
> Kalahari, the Sahara Desert, the Mexican-Sonora Desert, and Death
> Valley...
>
> Now I wish that I had hooked up my heater cables... Oh well, maybe
> after the snow has melted away...
>
> Phil
> dillard@suu.edu
>
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:48:42 -0700
From: James MacNaughton <JMac@uglyduckling.com>
To: "'type3@vwtype3.org'" <type3@vwtype3.org>
Subject: RE: [T3] First snow of the season!
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I'm sorry, I didn't read the whole message. It snowed in Phx in 1990, but
it *was* in January. Mea culpa.
> ----------
> From: James MacNaughton[SMTP:JMac@uglyduckling.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 16, 1998 9:38 AM
> To: 'type3@vwtype3.org'
> Subject: RE: [T3] First snow of the season!
>
> Hey now, it snowed here (Phoenix) for about 8 minutes in 1990!
>
> > ----------
> > From: Philip Dillard[SMTP:dillardp@edu-suu-lifac.li.suu.edu]
> > Reply To: Dillard@suu.edu
> > Sent: Friday, October 16, 1998 12:55 AM
> > To: type3@vwtype3.org
> > Subject: [T3] First snow of the season!
> >
> > Here in Cedar City, Utah, we have gotten our first snow storm of the
> > season...6 inches and still coming down.
> >
> > My wife had trouble keeping her Chevy pickup on the road this
> > morning, but my Squareback thrives on this stuff!
> >
> > Who else around the country (or world) has gotten an earlier
> > first snow storm? This contest is open to all people in the
> > Kalahari, the Sahara Desert, the Mexican-Sonora Desert, and Death
> > Valley...
> >
> > Now I wish that I had hooked up my heater cables... Oh well, maybe
> > after the snow has melted away...
> >
> > Phil
> > dillard@suu.edu
> >
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 12:41:08 EDT
From: HBakr@aol.com
To: TYPE3@vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] Death of a VWist
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Got the family's address for sending a card ? the least anyone can do.
HB
70 sq
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:39:43 +0100
From: oofacts@earthlink.net
To: type3@vwtype3.org
Subject: [T3] Looking for rocker discs
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WCM has them alright, but theyre for a ghia and according to WCM they
have a curve to them to go w/ the ghia fender. Not sure how easy it'd be
to straighten them out. So what if I dont have them? Is there anything
wrong with NOT having them? eg rust problems?
Mike
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:41:46 +0100
From: oofacts@earthlink.net
To: type3@vwtype3.org
Subject: [T3] Update on T3 parts FS
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Do you have any good torsion bar covers?
-Mike
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 02:59:09 -0700
From: Toby Basiliko <toby@wolfenet.com>
To: Jim Adney <jadney@vwtype3.org>
CC: type3@vwtype3.org
Subject: [T3] timing is dynamic
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On a not-really-related note:
If your spark advance mechanisms aren't working right, you'll get spark
'knock' (actually predetonation) at odd times.
I've had a broken centrifugal advance give me the option of either
low-rpm knock or lack of high-rpm power. A stuck one gave the reverse
symptoms, but every so often, it'd change just for the fun of it! My
favorite was a weak spring that made the car 'hunt' at idle between 1600
and 400 rpm.
In past, I never paid too much attention to what was under the point
mounting plate, but it's critical! Centrifugal advance can be 15-20
degrees, and it needs to happen at the right rate. That bit of felt
under the rotor needs to be kept oiled, too, as it lubes the connection
between the point cam and the main dist. shaft...
Now if I could just get the point cam off the main shaft to get in
there and actually FIX the things...
Toby B
Jim Adney wrote:
>
> On 15 Oct 98, at 8:09, James MacNaughton wrote:
>
> > Righty-o. I am of the opinion, though, that while you won't necessarily
> > get any 'power' from super gas, most engines will run better. snip
>
> "Most" engines these days are configured to run just fine on 87
> octane ([RON + MON) / 2] gas.
>
> Jim
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 20:40:51 EDT
From: VWMAN18@aol.com
To: type3@vwtype3.org
Subject: [T3] Idle weirdness
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Hello folks. Have any of you had this problem before? The engine in my
Fastback will not fire cyls. 1 and 3 at idle. When I bring up the RPM's
however, no problems. I have a 1641cc engine, with a set of '67 Solex 32
PDSIT carbs. I'm getting good compression (125 on 1 and 119 on 3), getting
spark at the plugs on both cyls, and getting gas through the carbs. I've
checked for vacuum leaks(sprayed WD40 down the carbs and it smoothed out) and
appear to have one, but I can't for the life of me figure out where it is. I
have sealed the venturis of both carbs, sealed off all vacuum ports for the
vac. advance distributor and laid RTV sealant in between the head and gasket,
gasket and manifold, manifold to carb gasket, and gasket to carb, on both
carbs. I sealed the equalization hose at both manifolds with RTV and a hose
clamp, though it fit snugly. I even went so far as to have the manifolds
magnafluxed to check for cracks. None. I don't know what else to look for.
I'm kinda lost at this point. At this time, I am searching the phone book for
an exorcist, because I am sure that the engine is possessed. However, I'm
sure you folks have a much more sane interpretation of this problem. Thanks
in advance for your help.
Cayson Ellsworth
68 Fastback (Poltergeist)
69 Square (need parts?)
71 KG Vert (still for sale)
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 23:23:01 -0400
From: Todd Daley <todd@datacom.ca>
To: type3@vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] Idle weirdness
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sounds like it is a pluged idle jet....... have you checked that (also you may
want to check the gasket between the throttle plate and the carb top.... if placed
the upside down it will block the idle circuit passage in the carburetor....
Todd Daley
71 squareback (with 32 pdsit's)
VWMAN18@aol.com wrote:
> Hello folks. Have any of you had this problem before? The engine in my
> Fastback will not fire cyls. 1 and 3 at idle. When I bring up the RPM's
> however, no problems. I have a 1641cc engine, with a set of '67 Solex 32
> PDSIT carbs. I'm getting good compression (125 on 1 and 119 on 3), getting
> spark at the plugs on both cyls, and getting gas through the carbs. I've
> checked for vacuum leaks(sprayed WD40 down the carbs and it smoothed out) and
> appear to have one, but I can't for the life of me figure out where it is. I
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 23:24:04 -0400
From: "HenryVW" <henryvw@ij.net>
To: <TYPE3@vwtype3.org>
Subject: Re: [T3] Death of a VWist
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I will post his familys address so that anyone who wishes to send a card
can.
----Bryan henryvw@ij.net
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From: HBakr@aol.com <HBakr@aol.com>
To: TYPE3@vwtype3.org <TYPE3@vwtype3.org >
Date: Friday, October 16, 1998 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: [T3] Death of a VWist
>Got the family's address for sending a card ? the least anyone can do.
>HB
>70 sq
>
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 22:54:56 -0500
From: "whizby" <whizby@pdq.net>
To: <type3@vwtype3.org>
Subject: Re: [T3] The Hill
Message-ID: <002e01bdf981$ec09bb00$741890d1@default>
n. Detonation is the gas exploding, expanding *very*
|rapidly and putting a LOT of stress on the pistons, rods and bearings.
|
|If you don't know what it sounds like I'll give you the great example Jim
|gave
|me a while back: It sounds like there are a bunch of BB's or metal nuts
|rattling around in your engine.
| Toby Erkson
| air_cooled_nut@pobox.com
does it maybe sound like a gravelly splashing? little rocks, B.B.'s
whatever.
what does it sound like when you open your oil filller. i don't hear
splashing, instead i hear sucking or slurping.
i know that descriptions of sounds can be really subjective, but this is
an opopertunity i've never had with my bug, if i took the oil cap off with
the engine running i would be covered in oil before i had the chance to
hear anything :)
brandon
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 00:46:52 -0700
From: "Roby Ballard" <robyballard@kih.net>
To: <type3@vwtype3.org>
Subject: [T3]
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Greetings all!
I am a new subscriber to the list and I figured I would start right off with
a BIG question...
Does anyone out there know if its possible to replace the front sheet metal
("doghouse") and hood on a late-model type 3 (with a "peaked" nose) with a
set from an earlier model (with a more rounded hood and much smaller turn
indicators)?
I'm relatively new to the type 3 world (and VWs in general), but I do have
experience in the street rodding realm.
Any information pro / con greatly appreciated.
Thanks, in advance.
- Roby B
'72 Fastback A/T (Fuelie, but in ashes thanks to an idiot replacing w/ carb
and not changing fuel pump from F/I type)
'72 Fastback M/T
'98 Jetta TDI
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 22:06:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steven Ayres <comwest@well.com>
To: type3@vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] timing is dynamic
Message-Id: <199810170506.WAA25178@well.com>
TobyB=> My favorite was a weak spring that made the car 'hunt' at idle
=> between 1600 and 400 rpm.
Which spring was that?
Steven Ayres, Prescott AZ
'66 343
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 00:28:44 -0600
From: "Jim Adney" <jadney@vwtype3.org>
To: type3@vwtype3.org
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On 16 Oct 98, at 9:21, James MacNaughton wrote:
> 1971, Variant, Savannah Beige. Loaded with weird little options (rear
> window defogger, and such).
71 FI type 3, time to TDC, both AT and MT.
Jim
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 00:28:45 -0600
From: "Jim Adney" <jadney@vwtype3.org>
To: type3@vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] ignition weirdness
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On 15 Oct 98, at 21:42, Ginger D.&Peter P. wrote:
> So does anyone know when the locking steering wheel started. My wheel
> does not lock, but I pulled an ignition from a '66 wreck that looks like
> it does. I don't remember a mention of it in my owners manual....
I think the steering lock started in the US in 69, but I also
remember that some very early beetles had it as an option. I suspect
there was such a type 3 option also, so it was probably standard in
some markets. I don't recall seeing it on the M code list, however.
Strangely enough, there are a couple of mentions of the "omission" of
steering wheel lock in the type 34 M-code list.
Jim
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 00:28:45 -0600
From: "Jim Adney" <jadney@vwtype3.org>
To: type3@vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] ignition weirdness
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On 15 Oct 98, at 22:34, Steven Ayres wrote:
> JimA=> I'm afraid I let Bosch eat that one.
>
> Why Jim, you scamp!
Mea culpa ;-)
Jim
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 00:28:44 -0600
From: "Jim Adney" <jadney@vwtype3.org>
To: type3@vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] The Hill
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On 16 Oct 98, at 22:54, whizby wrote:
> does it maybe sound like a gravelly splashing? little rocks, B.B.'s
> whatever.
It sounds like a handful of ball bearings slowly being poured into a
slightly muffled metal waste basket.
> what does it sound like when you open your oil filller. i don't hear
> splashing, instead i hear sucking or slurping.
The sucking sound is just the sound of the oil being sucked into the
oil pickup tube. It is normal, but usually only noticable when the
oil level is a little low.
> i know that descriptions of sounds can be really subjective, but this is
> an opopertunity i've never had with my bug, if i took the oil cap off
> with the engine running i would be covered in oil before i had the chance
> to hear anything :)
I think that on any bug after about '66, you should be able to do
this just the same as on a type 3. I have no experience with this,
however, and would be pleased to be educated if necessary.
Jim
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 00:28:45 -0600
From: "Jim Adney" <jadney@vwtype3.org>
To: type3@vwtype3.org
Subject: RE: [T3] The Hill
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On 16 Oct 98, at 7:40, Erkson, Toby wrote:
> Jim, I gotta disagree with you on this detonation topic. It can happen at
> higher RPM -- I've experienced it around 2600-3000rpm while trying to make
> it up a hill.
That sounds pretty high to me, but combustion science isn't my field,
so I only have the reading that I have done, plus my own experience,
to go on. I have only experienced this at low RPM, and that was a
long time ago, before I even knew what it was or what to do about it.
> Higher compression engines, like my engine, that are at operating temp or
> higher
I assume that here you mean "normal operating temp or overheating"
> can have preignition and detonation events occur, particularly
> while the engine is under load (driving up a hill or that damn mountain in
> Arizona y'all are gabbing about) and too much gas is being delivered
> (heavy throttle).
Actually lots of gas/air, but too little gas. One of the benefits of
a rich mixture is the cooling effect of the extra gas.
> You will notice that backing off on the throttle stops
> this condition. Retarding the spark advance will help as well but you may
> experience a loss in acceleration and power.
I can't help wondering if what you are experiencing is a slightly
different thing: preignition. This may be nitpicking, but
preignition is the ignition of the mixture by something hot in the
combustion chamber. It is not the same as detonation (ping, knock,
etc) and I don't think higher octane gas will help it. I am not
particular sure about this, but I think the symptoms, and the engine
damage that can result, are similar.
I have a friend that I can check this out with.
Jim
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 00:28:44 -0600
From: "Jim Adney" <jadney@vwtype3.org>
To: type3@vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] Death of a VWist
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On 16 Oct 98, at 1:31, HenryVW wrote:
> 10:00 Thursday morning a fellow VW enthusiast and his 67 beetle left us.
> His name was Eric and he was on his way to work .
I am sorry for the loss of your friend, and I commend you for
reminding each of us to drive more carefully.
Jim
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 11:37:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: mooneyed@webtv.net
To: type3@vwtype3.org
Subject: [T3] bugs?
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dose anyone know a beetle mailing list or know of a good source of early
used body parts . i know this is not about type3s but i just found an
oval baha that mabe i can fix up and trade for a fastback
THANX, 71sqr-64ntc
65bus-71sbtl.
Joe in Knox,Tn.
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 13:21:19 -0400
From: Douglas_Brashear@mail.amsinc.com
To: type3@vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] bugs?
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The VINTAGVW and AIRCLDVW lists are both good sources of info...you'll have
to do a search on the web for info on how to subscribe, though (I forgot
the addresses).
Hope this helps,
-Doug
douglas_brashear@mail.amsinc.com
To: type3@vwtype3.org
cc: (bcc: Douglas Brashear/AMS/AMSINC)
Subject: [T3] bugs?
dose anyone know a beetle mailing list or know of a good source of early
used body parts . i know this is not about type3s but i just found an
oval baha that mabe i can fix up and trade for a fastback
THANX, 71sqr-64ntc
65bus-71sbtl.
Joe in Knox,Tn.
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:46:03 -0600
From: Joyce Zslnka <joy.zslnka@sk.sympatico.ca>
To: type3@vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: type3-d Digest V98 #338
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I am not receiving any digests since number338 and really miss them
Please help me get them again
Joyce
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 17:44:22 -0400
From: Jake Kooser <jake_k@ibm.net>
To: type3@vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] The Hill
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Et tu, James? I'm shocked that Bryan and Toby ("The dark side"
brothers) didn't catch this one first. Can we get a judges' ruling on
this one, 'cause from down here in sunny Florida it looks like Jim's got
a touch of the 'dark side' as well.
> My engine is 1600 cc, rather mildly modified, CR ~ 7.0, FI, stock
> cam, and yet I believe it will whip any 1600 on this list. Plus it
> is 5 years old and has another 10 good years on it (will probably
> need a valve job in 60k miles.)
>
> Jim
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 17:35:32 -0600
From: Brian and Shannon <zoofye@micron.net>
To: a t-3 club <type3@vwtype3.org>
Subject: [T3] 1600cc reliability,power and networking
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Jim,
isn't a well built 1600 a thing of beauty? I had a 71 Square with a
1600; mild cam, dual baby Webers and baffled stinger that just ran and
ran. By far the most power and most reliable 1600 I have ever owned.
It easily pulled its way up Cabbage Hill (2800ft of curves in 4 and 1/2
miles in the Blue Mts.). Sometimes it is just a lucky combination, but
more times than not, it is the builder's consistency. The gent that
built that set-up, built my current 1933cc Roadster motor. This set up
is 'low flight' fast and still sips the fuel. Latest mpg is 27 with
dual dellortos. And his similar set up motors easily turn 65,000+ miles
before rebuild. Not bad for stroker cranked motors.
Most of this rambling is to remind people, if you find a good VW
mechanic in your area...share your knowledge with other listees. In
southern Idaho, eastern Oregon, north Nevada and north Utah look for
Rick Taylor (208)466-3913. He's not cheap, but he builds them to last,
and has all necessary parts needed to build a turnkey Type 3 motor.
In the same area, for body work, Shawn McConnichie at 'Howe Auto body'
in Caldwell, Idaho. He owns and understands how to prep and paint 30+
year old VWs.
If we continue to build a network of reliable services our cars will all
benefit.
Brian Fye
64 Notch Roadster
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 21:06:17 -0500
From: swaffordvw@juno.com
To: type3@vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] (G) Light
Message-ID: <19981017.210632.3654.1.swaffordvw@juno.com>
Well im not sure what a voltage meter will tell me with a bad voltage
regulator. But when i started it up the other day
Before start 11.79V
While Idling 11.85to 11.90V
At 2000Rpm+ 11.9-12V
So there you go and after i shut the motor off (Day Time no acessories
just engine) and with G lighted bright it charged in alittle but i never
thought about the fuese or who knows. thoes dag on grounds
>From Chris Swafford:www.geocities.com/motorcity/garage/4265/
537Buckeye 36LSB S.W. Corner of Cinti,Oh In the Hills
71'Beautiful Crashed stock Squareback half in primer. Anyone need parts?
73'Squareback (More than solid)Rear end hell! Any Suggestions?
68'Bug w/swingaxle (I hate thoes)Oh well!
On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 18:06:41 EDT VolksTron@aol.com writes:
>hI.
>
> I went through the same thing... Make sure
>your voltage regulater is
>grounded!!!!!!!! Next check to see if the two fuses under the back
>seat are
>good. I took out my generator took it a aprt and buffed up the
>contacts.
>Make sure the coil inside is not broken. One litte break will give
>you
>prblems. Get a voltage meter and make sure your generator is good.
>
> hope i can help with this crappy explanation.
>
> mike
>72 and 73 square
>
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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 08:21:57 +0200
From: "John M. Kowalski" <john.kowalski@zg.tel.hr>
To: John Clift <jclift@deans.umd.edu>
Cc: type3@vwtype3.org
Subject: [T3] Distributor for sale?
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John,
When we met this past June, you mentioned that you had an old styler
distributor that you don't need. Are you still interested in selling it?
If so, let me know. I would to buy it. I don't need it, but thought it
would be good to keep as a spare.
Hope all is well with you.
Take care,
John Kowalski
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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 02:35:33 -0400
From: Fnord <fnord@gte.net>
To: VWType 3 list <type3@vwtype3.org>, VW Type 2 late list <type2@type2.com>,
VintagVW <VintagVW@listproc.sjsu.edu>,
VintageBus List <vintagebus@bigkitty.azaccess.com>
Subject: [T3] NJ Bug FS
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I havent pesonaly seen the bug in question however I do know the seller
and he is a seriously straight forward shoot form the hip tell it like
it is sort of guy so if you have any questions just e-mail him and I
am sure he will tgive it to you straight, photos are up at
http://www.mmxpress.com/MMXBUG.jpg and he said "Im trying to get $2200
for it. WELL worth it. SOLID floors too. All redone." when I talked to
him about it, and form the images I have seen of it I believe him. And
for those of you that like tunes when you drive, considering that he
runs a car audio business, it probly has a rather nice set up in it.
if your interested in it you can email him at mailto:john@mmxpress.com
to get more information on it.
Dave
'76 Transporter
'92 Cow Spotted Honda Civic
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