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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:17:27 MST7MDT
From: "Philip Dillard" <dillardp@edu-suu-lifac.li.suu.edu>
To: type3@vwtype3.org
Subject: RE: [T3] The Hill
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>Geeze! This is nothin!
>About once a year I go to the Mt Equinox hillclimb, rising about
>3200 feet in about 5 miles,. Hairpin turns and all!
Keith, you're a "flatlander". I can drive east out of Cedar City,
elevation 5800 ft, and within 20 miles be at ll,000+ ft.
And on the way back down I can pick up the pieces of my engine!
And now, let's all sing "Climb Every Mountain" in unison...
Phil
dillard@suu.edu
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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 10:21:15 -0700
From: James MacNaughton <JMac@uglyduckling.com>
To: "'type3@vwtype3.org'" <type3@vwtype3.org>
Subject: RE: [T3] The Hill
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That particular stretch of highway is the worst (to my knowledge) in AZ.
There's a lot of US highways off in the east that wiggle around some fairly
good hills, but nothing like it. I've only seen one worse, and it's on I-8
between Yuma and San Diego; I'm not sure of the elevation change but it made
the C-10 Chevy I was in grunt pretty hard.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Park, Keith J (CRD) [SMTP:parkkj@crd.ge.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 1998 9:43 AM
> To: 'type3@vwtype3.org'
> Subject: RE: [T3] The Hill
>
> Geeze! This is nothin!
>
> About once a year I go to the Mt Equinox hillclimb, rising about 3200
> feet in about 5 miles,.
> Hairpin turns and all!
>
> The Square has no problem at all, keep the RPM up and it never even runs
> hot and I never stop to rest
> or anything like the waterpumpers do. Ill admit its not 118deg out but
> Ive done it in the 90's and didn['t have a problem. ITs a fun ride!
>
> Keith
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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 10:24:07 -0700
From: James MacNaughton <JMac@uglyduckling.com>
To: "'type3@vwtype3.org'" <type3@vwtype3.org>
Subject: RE: [T3] The Hill
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Children, let's play nice! I was just trying to illustrate that the 'hill'
I was climbing wasn't a bunny slope, that's all.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Philip Dillard [SMTP:dillardp@edu-suu-lifac.li.suu.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 1998 4:17 AM
> To: type3@vwtype3.org
> Subject: RE: [T3] The Hill
>
>
> >Geeze! This is nothin!
>
> >About once a year I go to the Mt Equinox hillclimb, rising about
> >3200 feet in about 5 miles,. Hairpin turns and all!
>
> Keith, you're a "flatlander". I can drive east out of Cedar City,
> elevation 5800 ft, and within 20 miles be at ll,000+ ft.
>
> And on the way back down I can pick up the pieces of my engine!
>
> And now, let's all sing "Climb Every Mountain" in unison...
>
> Phil
> dillard@suu.edu
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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 10:11:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steven Ayres <comwest@well.com>
To: type3@vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] Michigan Inspections
Message-Id: <199810151711.KAA04886@well.com>
Oofacts=> Here's why its NOT in the big 3 interest to have inspections.
=> DETROIT.
As I see it the industry's resistance to gummint inspections goes back
to the '60s and '70s, when the country began to demand that the
automakers clean up their act. Roadworthiness inspections, which New
Jersey, for instance, has required for decades, are entirely different
from emissions inspections. Americans are generally against
roadworthiness inspections and don't vote for them. That's a control
issue that Detroit can happily ignore. Emissions is another story.
There is little need for the automakers to skew their market in
Michigan, since the weather and salt there make hash out of most any car
within six or eight years of daily driving anyway.
=> Also the secondary market is a crucial part of the auto industry,
SEMA, the aftermarket manufacturer's lobbying group, disagrees mightily
with you on this point. It's their contention that the automakers are
actively working to create what amount to one-use products -- cars that
generally last longer than they did in the '70s but which are not
repairable by anyone but the manufacturers, at least in ways that make
economic sense. This has the effect of gradually eliminating the
aftermarket. If by 'secondary market' you're referring to the
manufacturers' pet parts suppliers, I see what you mean, but I don't
think repairs or maintenance are seen as at all in the interest of the
large industry players. Sell 'em a car and let 'em pay it off with
interest, at which point it starts falling apart, and leave 'em no
choice but to buy another one.
Steven Ayres, Prescott AZ
'66 343
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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:38:40 MST7MDT
From: "Philip Dillard" <dillardp@edu-suu-lifac.li.suu.edu>
To: type3@vwtype3.org
Subject: RE: [T3] The Hill
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>That particular stretch of highway is the worst (to my knowledge) in
>AZ.
Oh, ho, ho, you think so! Try 89A from Flagstaff to Sedona to
Jerome. You'll be in for 50 miles of "you-ain't-seen-nuthin'-yet"
driving. Magnificent drive with superlative views...and you'll never
get out of second gear!
I (innocently and unknowingly) went that route on my way to Prescott
to pick up my Brand X cars--sorry, I can't use the "F" word (Fiat) on
this list.
Hey, you folk who live on table tops oughta come out west to see some
REAL terrain....
Phil
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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:10:00 -0700
From: James MacNaughton <JMac@uglyduckling.com>
To: "'type3@vwtype3.org'" <type3@vwtype3.org>
Subject: RE: [T3] The Hill
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Ya, 87 from Payson to Winslow is a white-knuckler, too (there's some pretty
breath-taking stuff up there, too); but nobody's blasting by you at 75 or
80. Everyone on the road *expects* you to be just sub-light on I-17. It's
all good stuff, though.
-----Original Message-----
From: Philip Dillard [SMTP:dillardp@edu-suu-lifac.li.suu.edu]
Sent: Thursday, 15 October 1998 4:39
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Subject: RE: [T3] The Hill
>That particular stretch of highway is the worst (to my knowledge)
in
>AZ.
Oh, ho, ho, you think so! Try 89A from Flagstaff to Sedona to
Jerome. You'll be in for 50 miles of "you-ain't-seen-nuthin'-yet"
driving. Magnificent drive with superlative views...and you'll
never
get out of second gear!
I (innocently and unknowingly) went that route on my way to Prescott
to pick up my Brand X cars--sorry, I can't use the "F" word (Fiat)
on
this list.
Hey, you folk who live on table tops oughta come out west to see
some
REAL terrain....
Phil
dillard@suu.edu
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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:47:22 PDT
From: "andy almstrom" <kafer49@hotmail.com>
To: type3@vwtype3.org
Subject: RE: [T3] The Hill
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well, i think i can win this one. i am stationed out in southern germany
and i am about 2 hours from the alps. there are some roads out there
that no volkswagen can conquer. well, except probably toby's car. well
some of the roads go almost straight up. i have had a hard time just
walking up them let alone drive.
andy
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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:16:54 -0700
From: "John R. Jetty" <jjetty@pahrump.com>
To: <type3@vwtype3.org>
Subject: Re: [T3] The Hill
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Ok I gotta put this in
On Monday I was board so I went driving and ended up at Death Valley I went
from 200 feet below see level to almost 5000 feet with in three hours and
had a blast. and never heard a ping out of the little bug. Not to mention
the nice warm day in Death Valley it was only in the upper 80's. You gotta
love winter in the desert!!!!!
James
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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 00:10:53 -0500
From: "Richard Steinburg" <wagen@pangea.ca>
To: "Jim Adney" <jadney@vwtype3.org>, <type3@vwtype3.org>
Subject: Re: [T3] How far should I go? (engine dismantling)
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> I think it would be incredibly difficult to install a helicoil, or a
> solid insert, in an assembled engine, let along while installed in
> the car. There really is no room to get in there to do that work.
>
> It is more likely that your mechanic installed one of those quick and
> dirty repair studs, which has what look like oversized wood screw
> threads on one end. These can be easily installed in the car, are
> cheap, and guaranteed to let you down at an inconvenient moment.
Sorry, I forgot to mention that I had taken the engine out of the car prior
to taking it to the mechanic. He took off #3+4 cylinders and inserted the
helicoil.
> I have avoided even mentioning them for fear that someone would think
> that they amounted to anything more than a VERY temporary stopgap
> solution. If you have one or more of these, you should be shopping
> for a rebuild, and a real solution, right now!
I agree, the stud that popped out was one of the said kind. I would've had
inserts put in all of the studs, but no $, no time.
> A helicoil, on the other hand is usually a very good repair. They
> are seldom used for head stud repairs, however, because it is
> difficult to keep oil from the case from leaking out through them.
> The solid inserts don't have this problem.
>
> Jim
>
> -
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> Madison, Wisconsin, USA
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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:01:14 -0700
From: James MacNaughton <JMac@uglyduckling.com>
To: "'Jim Adney'" <jadney@vwtype3.org>
Subject: RE: [T3] The Hill
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No, the car seems fine (I did manage to blow the rear main, coating my
clutch very nicely with oil, it's amazing though, as we get older we =
have
better tools to work with. I actually changed a clutch last night on a
lift! It only took four hours! What a joy!), as I said, once the =
'Hill'
leveled off, and the temp dropped down, the old girl zipped right =
along.
The 'Hill' is on I-17 between Phoenix and Flagstaff. It traverses the
Mogollon Rim, rising in elevation from approxitmately 1800 feet to just =
over
5500 feet in about 1 1/2 miles. It's a real bastard in a water-cooled =
car,
but the T3 didn't like it at all.
(I actually meant After TDC, sorry!) I had two manuals at my disposal =
when
I was tuning it up before the trip; one said TDC (my manual), and a =
friend
who's a mechanic who's book sad 7 1/2=BA btdc. He made a compromise =
and set
it to 5, which worked fine until I started stretching the old girl's =
legs
going on the interstate.
Seems to be working fine, but she's throwing a lot of black smoke, that =
is
intoxicating in the amount of gas fumes. Still getting 21+ in town, =
and 27+
on the road, though. Only other problem to mention is that =
occaisionally it
will buck once (and only once) while whipping along the highway. =
Thoughts?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Adney [SMTP:jadney@vwtype3.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 1998 9:47 PM
> To: type3@vwtype3.org
> Subject: RE: [T3] The Hill
>=20
> On 14 Oct 98, at 11:05, James MacNaughton wrote:
>=20
> > Anyway, I'm still pretty new to T3's, and this guy who's a real =
fanatic
> > said that some pinging in an FI car wasn't so bad, and likely due =
to FI
> > problems. I backed my timing off anyway; and on the climb up the =
hill I
> > actually got really chicken and backed the timing to btdc, and =
enriched
> > the a/f mixture. Pinging went away mostly, but the really striking =
lack
> of
> > anything resembling power worried me.
>=20
> If you're FI then your timing should be TDC, except for 72. I don't=20
> think it is a good idea to advance more than that since the FI=20
> distributors have a lot of advance built into them. Ping and knock=20
> (same thing, just a matter of degree) are usually just low RPM=20
> phenomena, they should not happen above 1500-1800 RPM. Perhaps you=20
> should downshift and take advantage of the better operating=20
> conditions and cooling at higher RPMs. This usually improves power,=20
> too.
> =20
> I don't know the hill all you guys are talking about (this is getting =
> pretty local, after all) so what altitude are you at? =20
>=20
> > Suggestions? I'm investigating a bad pressure regulator, any other
> > possibilities?
>=20
> Never seen a bad fuel pressure regulator, but a clogged fuel filter=20
> is a possibility. The other possibility is that any of our (stock)=20
> cars would have felt the same. Of course there are many other=20
> possibilities. Has something changed in your car, or does it seem=20
> the same as it always has?
>=20
> Jim
> -
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> Madison, Wisconsin, USA
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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 18:38:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: Greg Merritt <gregm@vwtype3.org>
To: type3@vwtype3.org
Subject: [T3] e-mail hiccup @vwtype3.org
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Hi all,
A bit of an e-mail hiccup for addresses @vwtype3.org. All should
be rectivied now! Sorry for inconveniences.
-Greg
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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 19:22:23 EDT
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In a message dated 10/15/98 9:49:48 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
parkkj@crd.ge.com writes:
> About once a year I go to the Mt Equinox hillclimb, rising about 3200 feet
> in about 5 miles,.
I think it was stated that the AZ I17 hill climbs 3700 feet in a mile and a
half???? dunno if that's true or not, might be closer to 3 mmiles, but this
hill's nothing to scoff at, especially in a fairly major 4 lane highway.
Matt
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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:44:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steven Ayres <comwest@well.com>
To: type3@vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] The Hill
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Matt=> might be closer to 3 mmiles, but this hill's nothing to scoff at,
=> especially in a fairly major 4 lane highway.
Right on, and nobody tries to take a mountain hillclimb at 65mph -- or
even more ;)
Steven Ayres, Prescott AZ
'66 KGhia 1600 (or larger)
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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 22:21:59 -0600
From: "Jim Adney" <jadney@vwtype3.org>
To: type3@vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] ignition weirdness
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On 14 Oct 98, at 15:42, Dave Hall wrote:
> Maybe the US one doesn't have a steering lock. It's a bit dangerous
> to be able to pull out the key while the engine is running if the
> steering locks up! I suspect it does have a steering lock, and your
> assembly is faulty on the Squareback, which is a worry, for the
> reason above.
I don't remember what year we are talking about, but in the US I
think we got the steering lock in about 69. I don't think the
steering lock will engage unless the lock cylinder is TURNED. You
should verify this, however, because Dave is right, this could be
dangerous.
Jim
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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 22:21:59 -0600
From: "Jim Adney" <jadney@vwtype3.org>
To: type3@vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] ignition weirdness
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On 14 Oct 98, at 18:56, Richard Steinburg wrote:
> My 64 Square's ignition won't spring back to the on position after turning
> it to start; you have to turn the key manually to turn the starter off.
> All I've done to attempt fixing this is squirted some graphite in the
> keyhole, but nothing has changed. Is my ignition supposed to work this
> way?
There's a broken spring in the lock. This is not a problem for you,
usually, but I know someone who had this problem and loaned his car
to a friend without mentioning it. The friend failed to notice and
let the starter continue to run.
30 miles later, at highway speeds, the armature exploded. When I
opened the starter to see if I could rebuild it, there was nothing
left inside, other than the shaft, that was any larger than a grain
of sand!
I'm afraid I let Bosch eat that one.
Jim
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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 23:32:27 -0600
From: "Jim Adney" <jadney@vwtype3.org>
To: type3@vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] More on the FI Cold Start Problem
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On 15 Oct 98, at 8:14, klruff1@mail.webspan.net wrote:
> After the car fired up this
> morning, I got out of the car to move my daily driver out of the way to
> get the T3 out of the garage and noticed a small wet spot under the car
> near the right rear wheel. In investigating, it turned out to be gas. Can
> this be related to the cold start problem?
Yes, it is probably a leaking fuel hose on an injector. I probably
still leaks while the engine is running, you just haven't seen it.
Look in the engine compartment with the engine running; use a
flashlight to look for wet areas around and under the injectors. Fix
your leaks they cause fires; fires destroy cars.
Jim
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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 23:32:26 -0600
From: "Jim Adney" <jadney@vwtype3.org>
To: type3@vwtype3.org
Subject: RE: [T3] The Hill
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On 15 Oct 98, at 9:01, James MacNaughton wrote:
> (I actually meant After TDC, sorry!) I had two manuals at my disposal
> when I was tuning it up before the trip; one said TDC (my manual), and a
> friend who's a mechanic who's book sad 7 1/2=BA btdc. He made a comprom=
ise
> and set it to 5,
Let's clear up the timing question first. You have a FI T3. What
year is it?
Jim
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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 23:32:26 -0600
From: "Jim Adney" <jadney@vwtype3.org>
To: type3@vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] The Hill
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On 15 Oct 98, at 12:06, LaRoucheD1@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 98-10-15 02:01:41 EDT, Jim Adney wrote:
>
> << That is because there is always cooling air flowing through the
> heat exchangers, we just get to control where the hot air gets
> dumped, inside or out >>
>
> Just a thought, if the heater boxes were modified to prevent the air air
> from being dumped outside, would this direct more cooling air to the
> engine? Or would this cause some unforeseen problem with the heater boxes
> getting too hot (possibly melting the aluminum fins inside or burning the
> outer covering)?
We cpvered this only recently. I was concerned about running the
heat exchangers without cooling, but someone on the list pointed out
that they had been doing it for years with no perceived ill effects.
Yes, cooling the heat exchangers less should cool the engine more,
but in most cases, there is no good reason to do this. Certainly not
with a stock engine.
Jim
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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 21:42:17 -0700
From: "Ginger D.&Peter P." <gingerd@teleport.com>
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Subject: Re: [T3] ignition weirdness
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So does anyone know when the locking steering wheel started. My wheel
does not lock, but I pulled an ignition from a '66 wreck that looks like
it does. I don't remember a mention of it in my owners manual....
Peter Parker
'66 Square; Phillip
Portland, OR
>Jim Adney wrote:
>I don't remember what year we are talking about, but in the US I think we
got the >steering lock in about 69.
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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 21:46:21 -0700
From: "Ginger D.&Peter P." <gingerd@teleport.com>
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I finally went to a leather shop and got a scrap of black boot leather.
They cut it to 5/8" and didn't even charge me. It looks great. (in other
words, you don't notice it).
Peter Parker
'66 Square; Phillip
Portland, OR
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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 23:32:27 -0600
From: "Jim Adney" <jadney@vwtype3.org>
To: type3@vwtype3.org
Subject: RE: [T3] The Hill
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On 15 Oct 98, at 8:09, James MacNaughton wrote:
> Righty-o. I am of the opinion, though, that while you won't necessarily
> get any 'power' from super gas, most engines will run better. To continue
> the simile line, if you eat chili dogs and soda you'll stay living, but a
> balanced diet will make your digestive tract happier. It (higher RON)
> also helps in extreme conditions; heat, big hills, etc. I'm reasonably
> sure of this, but I will gladly stop roasting myself alive in the summer.
There's no rational support for your opinion, but the gas companies
will love you for it because you're one of those people who will
volunteer to give them a bit more of their money for no real reason.
Using higher octane gas when you don't need it also wastes resources
because it takes more crude and/or energy to produce a gallon of 87
than a gallon of 91.
Roasting yourself alive is pointless. Detonation is a low RPM
phenomenum, even more common in a cold engine where the mixture is
denser. Engine cooling has nothing to do with it, and even if it
did, cooling the heat exchanger more or less has no effect on
combustion chamber/head temps. Top this all off with the fact that
turning on the heat in the interior doesn't even have an effect on
heat exchanger temp.
"Most" engines these days are configured to run just fine on 87
octane ([RON + MON) / 2] gas. Of course there are exceptions, but
they are still exceptions. Our older cars are among the exceptions
unless one has taken the prudent step of modifying the CR when the
engine is rebuilt.
If you think it is just being prudent, would you also recomend that I
buy flood and hurricane insurance even though I don't live on a flood
plane or near the east coast?
My engine is 1600 cc, rather mildly modified, CR ~ 7.0, FI, stock
cam, and yet I believe it will whip any 1600 on this list. Plus it
is 5 years old and has another 10 good years on it (will probably
need a valve job in 60k miles.)
Jim
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Madison, Wisconsin, USA
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 01:31:03 -0400
From: "HenryVW" <henryvw@ij.net>
To: <type3@vwtype3.org>
Subject: [T3] Death of a VWist
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10:00 Thursday morning a fellow VW enthusiast and his 67 beetle left us. His
name was Eric and he was on his way to work .He had the green arrow to turn
on to his normal route when a drunk driving a honda CRX ran a red light at
65 mph and nailed the driverside door. He had some faults as we all do but
was a good man. I trully enjoyed working with him at the vw shop in my
afternoons. Luckly the police said he was killed instantly , otherwise I
fear that he would have had to endured more pain than is imagineable. As can
probably be assumed, there was nothing but a mangled mess left of his car
and he did not fare any better. I have no T-3 content for this posting BUT
let this be a reminder that we are indeed fragile beings and if we are to
continue enjoying this hobby that we love. And to continue enjoying the
company of those we care for ,,,, We must all be more aware of our
suroundings when driving our VWs. an impact at 65 would have desrtoyed
almost any car and its occupants , but we would fare pretty bad at almost
any speed. SO Please be carefull and watch the other driver... We dont need
to lose any more of us good folk.
-----Bryan Henryvw@ij.net
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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 22:34:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steven Ayres <comwest@well.com>
To: type3@vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] ignition weirdness
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JimA=> I'm afraid I let Bosch eat that one.
Why Jim, you scamp!
Steven Ayres, Prescott AZ
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 06:14:56 -0500
From: "whizby" <whizby@pdq.net>
To: <type3@vwtype3.org>
Subject: Re: [T3] ignition weirdness
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From: Jim Adney <jadney@vwtype3.org>
To: type3@vwtype3.org <type3@vwtype3.org>
Date: Thursday, October 15, 1998 10:27 PM
Subject: Re: [T3] ignition weirdness
On 14 Oct 98, at 15:42, Dave Hall wrote:
> Maybe the US one doesn't have a steering lock. It's a bit dangerous
> to be able to pull out the key while the engine is running if the
> steering locks up! I suspect it does have a steering lock, and your
> assembly is faulty on the Squareback, which is a worry, for the
> reason above.
I don't remember what year we are talking about, but in the US I
think we got the steering lock in about 69. I don't think the
steering lock will engage unless the lock cylinder is TURNED. You
should verify this, however, because Dave is right, this could be
dangerous.
Jim
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so someone tell me why hes driving around without his key?just because it
can come out doesn't mean you have to take it out..
how would you turn it off when you get where you're going?(so you can start
it again??)
Puzzled in Pomona
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 08:10:38 -0400
From: "Park, Keith J (CRD)" <parkkj@crd.ge.com>
To: type3@vwtype3.org
Subject: RE: [T3] The Hill
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I gotta disagree with Jim on one point (WOA! Is that a full moon out there??)
Before I learned I needed 92 Oct I'd get my detonation on the highway at 70 which is around 3400rpm.
If you lifted the engine lid it was deafoning! So the detonation is at higher RPM too.. Id never hear
it in town, only on the highway with the engine at full temp.
I got rid of it by backin off the timing to 3bef and running the better gas which did run the engine
cooler, detonation seems to make things run hotter overall. My CR is too high, Im using unmodified
aftermarket NEW heads which I think are 7.7 or so. But if your engine doesnt knock I agree that your
throwin your money away with high octane gas.
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 07:12:14 -0700
From: Allen Moore <concept@compassnet.com>
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Subject: [T3] Side Window Rubber
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Recently we were discussing Windshield rubber for our Type-3's.
What about the side window rubber? Has anybody come up with
a good source for original style window rubber for the side
windows? Especially for the Squareback? (Middle and cargo
windows)
Also, I noticed that RMMW now carries window scrapers for the
T-3. I called and they said that they are Brazilian made and
they have 17 sets in stock. Anybody tried these? I believe
that they are $44.95 each.
Its finally cooled down here in Texas and I am going to install
my stainless steel center brake line tommorrow. This Square
will FINALLY be back on the road with a mostly new brake system!
Allen
concept@compassnet.com
70' Squareback
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:35:44 EDT
From: TOASTEDT3@aol.com
To: type3@vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] ignition weirdness
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In a message dated 10/16/98 4:27:10 AM Pacific Daylight Time, whizby@pdq.net
writes:
<< so someone tell me why hes driving around without his key?just because it
can come out doesn't mean you have to take it out..
how would you turn it off when you get where you're going?(so you can start
it again??)
Puzzled in Pomona >>
I think, since it's been stated that the key comes out because the ignition
is worn, that the concern is of the ignition wearing down even more and the
key not being able to stay in the ignition or maybe even fall out while
driving. The key stays in the ignition fine now, it's just possible to "pull"
the key out. If it gets any worse, we'll change it
Matt & Katie
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 07:55:00 MST7MDT
From: "Philip Dillard" <dillardp@edu-suu-lifac.li.suu.edu>
To: type3@vwtype3.org
Subject: [T3] First snow of the season!
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Here in Cedar City, Utah, we have gotten our first snow storm of the
season...6 inches and still coming down.
My wife had trouble keeping her Chevy pickup on the road this
morning, but my Squareback thrives on this stuff!
Who else around the country (or world) has gotten an earlier
first snow storm? This contest is open to all people in the
Kalahari, the Sahara Desert, the Mexican-Sonora Desert, and Death
Valley...
Now I wish that I had hooked up my heater cables... Oh well, maybe
after the snow has melted away...
Phil
dillard@suu.edu
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