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n. Detonation is the gas exploding, expanding *very* |rapidly and putting a LOT of stress on the pistons, rods and bearings. | |If you don't know what it sounds like I'll give you the great example Jim |gave |me a while back: It sounds like there are a bunch of BB's or metal nuts |rattling around in your engine. | Toby Erkson | air_cooled_nut@pobox.com does it maybe sound like a gravelly splashing? little rocks, B.B.'s whatever. what does it sound like when you open your oil filller. i don't hear splashing, instead i hear sucking or slurping. i know that descriptions of sounds can be really subjective, but this is an opopertunity i've never had with my bug, if i took the oil cap off with the engine running i would be covered in oil before i had the chance to hear anything :) brandon ------------------------------------------------------------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/