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You didnt say where your from... but here in the US, a late style Notch is almost extinct!! So, it doesnt sound like the rust is too unmanagable (although you havent found it all yet) and even without an engine its probably worth the money. you WILL need to repair the rust at least to the extent that the car wont leak water into areas where it shouldnt be or your car will deteriorate quickly. Post to the list for more info on getting an engine... you may not need to spend that much but if you do you really need to shop with knowlege... there is SO MUCH crap out there and the life of a T3 engine is so very dependant on being built, setup, and cared for properly. Keith ------------------------------------------------------------------- Unsubscribe? mailto:type3-request@vwtype3.org, Subject: unsubscribe