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On 11 May 2005 at 15:21, Per Lindgren wrote: > Everyone, I got lost on this thread, so I had to ask Daniel what he > really needed answered, because it looks like most of you only know the > FI engines, and it just adds to the confusion. You're right about the confusion, but at least I can claim that we KNEW we were confused. Even the VW microfilm seems to be confused on this issue, unless we find a different page that contains the bracket that Daniel has, which was certainly the one used on FI engines. > The carburetted engines doesnt even have this holder bracket, I believe > it is for FI models only. This is certainly possible. Does anyone in the world have a OE carbed type 3 engine with the Tee shaped bracket? > http://public.fotki.com/Volkswagen/variant/img_1226.html > http://public.fotki.com/Volkswagen/variant/img_1227.html > http://public.fotki.com/Volkswagen/variant/img_1228.html > http://public.fotki.com/Volkswagen/variant/img_1229.html > http://public.fotki.com/Volkswagen/variant/img_1230.html Per, it looks to me like the top surface of your bracket used to be horizontal. That's just a guess, based on what the other brackets look like. Okay, so now we are up to 4 completely different brackets: Jason's photo: Early long strap with 2 large holes for 2 twin SP wire holders Russ's P/L scan & Per's photos: Early short Z-strap with 2 holes for one large and one small SP wire holder Maybe I'm just making this one up? Early short Z-strap with single hole for one large SP twin wire holder The one Daniel photographed: Late Tee-bar (FI only?) with 2 large holes and one small hole. Did you notice how all of these look like they could have started out being made from the same 2 dies? > These pictures here are from my 73. I believe my 70 has the exact same > setup, but I havent checked that one. It's probably the same. The clip that's cut out of the left top cyl tin was just introduced in '70. Before that, the tin was smooth and there was a separate (long silver) clip used. (It looks like you have a short version of that silver strap clamped under your bracket.) On FI engines that is used to guide part of the FI wiring harness. I had no idea that this was used in carbed engines to route a fuel line. Pretty clever of VW. Thanks for showing us these photos. -- Jim Adney jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, WI 53711-3054 USA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~