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In a message dated 7/21/05 9:28:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, fess-vwtype3.org@fess.org writes: << I was counting on the techniques in Keith's front end FAQ of jacking up the lower torsion arm, however I can jack it up till it hits the stops, and it doesn't come out. [and the car is rather precarious at that point. ] it's only sticking in about half the thickness of the steering knuckle, so it's almost there. I'm attempting to leave the top ball joint alone as per Keith's FAQ as I only wish to adjust ride height. Any ideas? do I need a majik clamping device as in the bentley? [ I tried some tie down straps with a crank, but they couldn't build up enough force. It looked promising for moment though. ] >> Have you removed the bolt? If not, you need to. If you have, then you need a scrifical screw driver to drive into the slot, so you can spread it out. Once this happens, the ball joint stud should literally fall out. I do it differently, as I live in the rust belt. I normally remove the big 30mm nut on the other end of the ball joint, as this is less likely to snap than the little 10mm bolt. If you have the spindle removed from the lower trailing arm, there is a clip (held in place by a 10mm bolt (15mm head size). Just go ahead and remove it as it is a stop for the side you're working on (keeps the trailing arm from walking out of the beam), and a lock for the other torsion bar. I hope this helps. Bob 65 Notch S w/ Sunroof 71 Square, now a 2 seat Roadster, becoming a T-3 Heb, pics can be seen at; http://volksrods.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2977 69 Square, currently awaiting a t-4 engine transplant ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~