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On 16 Jun 2003 at 6:16, phil cain wrote: > Hal, Things are looking grim for you, I don't think > retorquing the heads will do any good in your case. > the overhaul company must not have put case savers > into the case when it was rebuilt. I rebuild engines > and I have never had a stud pull out after casesavers > have been installed. I agree that the ONLY real way to rebuild one of these engines and expect it to last a good long life is to get case savers (steel inserts) installed. RIMCO does this so well, so cheaply, and so quickly, that there is absolutely NO point in not doing it. I've also seen engines rebuilt by novices who then discovered that the studs were pulling out AFTER they thought they were finished rebuilding; that's a big disappointment. BTW, if you go the HP route and install the smaller case savers for 8mm studs, this is a good thing, but you MUST use the correct specs for these studs. If you use the normal torque for 10mm studs you will pull the 8mm case savers out of the case. Major bummer. > Also I have seen many people try to save engines by retorquing the > heads, with no luck I disagree. While fairly uncommon, it occasionally happens that a nut just comes loose. People who are so lucky should just accept their good fortune with gratitude and STILL install case savers at the next rebuild. > if you install the big case saver studs they will ruin the case for > installing the case saver inserts. The repair studs (I assume that's what you meant) aren't nearly as big in diameter as the case savers. You can still install case savers after the repair studs have pulled out. -- ******************************* Jim Adney, jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, Wisconsin, USA ******************************* ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org