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<x-charset iso-8859-1>Well this is how i got my big fat 205/60's on middle/late riverias to fit. I bent the up the lip on the wheel well so that it wasn't perpinducular to the the wheel anymore. Once it was bolted back on my car I grabbed teh centrer of teh wheel opening and gave it a a pull. Not my best body work but it worked. I did figure out why on side fit whil teh other was rubbing. I took a closer look at my rear fenders and the right side was bulged out! So i bulged out the other side. Depending on your style, lowering will tuck your wheels in too. BUT only the tops! I tried that aproach. it was so low i couldn't get my jack under the spring plates unless i pushed up on the car first. Eric ------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <type3-off@vwtype3.org> For more help, see http://vwtype3.org/list/ </x-charset>