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i have had many times of 'point bounce' with my motors. but, like toby, i don't drive a bone stock car with a pertronix. and, i have never had to set the timing a second time with my pertronix. -- Brian--\x/64 Notch http://www.geocities.com/menacefye/invasion.html Parma, Idaho: Home of the 2002 "Type 3 Invasion" Aug. 17th and 18th ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org