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Toby, get samples! All those places will send them out for free. The TMI and Rocky Mtn set were shiny polyester looking stuff (the loop, ack,gag shag no no no). Sewfine has some darn nice stuff that they call "Series 400". It is erratic loop and is available in several colors, the salt n pepper being the closest to our black wool original. But I discovered too late that Sewfine doesn't cut it out like stock. It is cut with extra pieces like a b*g. From the photo, it appears that the Rocky Mtn is cut like stock. Take a look at Phillip at the PIR (Oregon) show. Peter Parker '66 Square; Phillip Portland, OR ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org