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Okay, that's kind of what I'd expected. I've been dreadfully paranoid since a Type I sent a half pound of aluminum into the strainer one day soon after I moved to AZ. I was on 87 just outside (about 17 miles) of Florence. Heavily populated area, so it was easy to get a tow. Oh, no, wait, it's the middle of the dessert. Anyway, I'm still pretty new to T3's, and this guy who's a real fanatic said that some pinging in an FI car wasn't so bad, and likely due to FI problems. I backed my timing off anyway; and on the climb up the hill I actually got really chicken and backed the timing to btdc, and enriched the a/f mixture. Pinging went away mostly, but the really striking lack of anything resembling power worried me. Once I got through the hills, and took off through Chino and Williams she just ripped right along, no complaints. But I was worried about the continued pinging (uphill) and what I felt was significant power loss. The only other time I pulled the big hill was in a fairly hot Type I, and while things like 5 litre Mustangs and Corvettes were passing me, I was never below 60 the whole run up. Suggestions? I'm investigating a bad pressure regulator, any other possibilities? -----Original Message----- From: Park, Keith J (CRD) [SMTP:parkkj@crd.ge.com] Sent: Wednesday, 14 October 1998 10:50 To: 'type3@vwtype3.org' Subject: RE: [T3] The Hill When pulling a hill.. ANY pinging is unacceptable,like hole in #3 unacceptable. When pulling a hill.. Stock now.. use 3/4 throttle in the heat and if she falls below 55 throw It in third. MUCH more cooling air with the engine going faster. Keith ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org