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When pulling a hill.. ANY pinging is unacceptable,like hole in #3 unacceptable. When pulling a hill.. Stock now.. use 3/4 throttle in the heat and if she falls below 55 throw It in third. MUCH more cooling air with the engine going faster. Keith ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org