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On 12 Sep 2006 at 4:56, Arkady Mirvis wrote: > Get a watercooled Vanagon and you will be convinced that VW is a den of > many very mediocre engineers. The whole organization is filled with > arrogance and will display unparalleled vengeance going after anyone > who criticizes designs. Audi with self- jumping cars lost not long ago > millions Gee, Ark, don't hold back. Tell us what you really think. ;-) As for that Audi fiasco, I thought that was finally realized to be nothing more than hype and driver error. Example: A front wheel drive car driven at full throttle with the brakes on hard at the same time might well have done the damage described, but the rear wheels would have been locked up and left a skid trail. There were never any rear wheel skid trails. If there was any Audi fault, it would have to have been in some kind of poor pedal geometry which led people to make this mistake, but in the end I believe the analysis showed that these kinds of accidents were actually no more common in Audis than in other cars that tended to be driven by the same age group. Road and Track actually instrumented an Audi in which they managed to catch a few drivers making this mistake and claiming that it was the car's fault. -- ******************************* Jim Adney, jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, Wisconsin, USA ******************************* ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~