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Interesting, Im just surprised that Good year, Michelin, Dunlop and others no longer make this size. They were used on many other foreign cars too, like the BMW and MG. What do the Mexican Beetles (old style) use? There are still a lot of those around south of the border. Keith Top Notch Restorations topnotch@nycap.rr.com 71 Squareback 65 Notchback "El Baja Rojo" 65 Squareback "Eggcrate" 87 golf "Winterat" 93 RX7 "Redstur" -----Original Message----- From: Jens Vagelpohl [mailto:jens@type4.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 5:06 AM To: type3@vwtype3.org Subject: Re: [T3] Are Kumho's the ONLY tires left? On 21 Jun 2006, at 05:48, russw wrote: > On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 21:41 -0400, Keith Park wrote: >> Its time to Retire the Square after the Invasion. >> And it seems NOBODY makes our size anymore except for Kumho of Korea. >> I really haven't heard anything *Bad* about them but they are awful >> cheap.... >> Doesn't Good year or Michelin make 165 15's anymore?? >> >> And for those that are running Kumho's how are they in the rain? >> Noisy on >> the highway? >> > I am running Coopers on a couple of mine. I think they are still > available, in a 165-15. I just recently had to do a little research myself, in this case for a Porsche 914. I was not able to find the Coopers. The only choices I found were either the (expensive) repros from Coker, and then you have various far east brands that are stocked by some of the national chains. Coker offers 165 SR 15 Vredesteins for $80/tire before tax/shipping, and Michelin XZX 165 SR 15 for $130. They also have a 165 HR 115 Michelin that's even more expensive, but that's probably more interesting for a Porsche 914 than a Type 3 ;) I had one set of Nankang 165/15 priced out at a total of $260 installed/balanced, this was from a chain named Les Schwab. You can find cheaper far eastern 165/15 by going to the various national retailers' websites and searching by size, but keep an eye on the speed rating. I saw at least one tire that was actually Q-rated, which is less than the factory rating we have on our cars. Buyer beware. On the Type 4 list one member mentioned that Coker actually sends truckloads of tires to big shows where you can buy them without shipping and, especially at Hershey, at a discount. If there's a show they go to near you you can order the tires and tell them to take them to the show and save at least shipping that way. jens ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~