Re: [T3] questions from the new type 3 owner

[BOB2TYPE3S@aol.com]

In a message dated 9/28/05 8:21:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
topnotch@nycap.rr.com writes:

<< Sounds like a plan, and with your good welding skills Id have that warm and
 Fuzzy.  Ill keep it in mind when Im sitting there trying to figure what I
 want to go where with the empty engine compartment.
 
 The T4 rear hanger has the shock mounts on the engine part, does it also
 have rubber mounts on the Bus or 914 body section? >>

Thanks. Remember my Notch engine hanger mounts that you liked at the 2004  
Invasion, I welded them in too. Kinda looked factory, unless you knew better. : 
)  Yeah, I stared at that open hole for quite a while, trying to decide if I 
really wanted to put that big motor in it (in my 69).  I eventually mocked it 
in place. You were mentioning adding a second t-3 hanger or something along 
those lines, but after mocking mine in, you'd really be better off fabing 
something new from the start.  I only say that, because I heated and re-shaped the 
the t-3 part ("z" shaped the ends), along with doing some major trimming around 
the oil pump area, just to get it close to working. In my case, I ended up 
cutting the t-3 bar into 3 pieces, then shaped it into what I needed, then welded 
it all together. This gave me something close to the right length, and got it 
to fit the t-4 engine. By the way you do realize the t-4 uses 4 - 8mm bolts 
to hold the rear of the engine, versus  2 - 10mm and one 8mm bolt on a t-3. 
When you look at it like that, things get a little nervous about just using a 
rear hanger alone.

The bus and 914 use rubber bumpers on a bar that is bolted to steel, and the 
engine case (with little brackets at the case end). I'm not really sure on the 
914, as I don't own one, but the bar is cast iron (I have one) and it has 
tubular shaped ends like it's rubber mounted at the ends. Maybe Toby can help 
clear this up here as he's a 914 owner. My T-2 Bentley covers the bus mount 
pretty good (both t-1 and t-4 styles), so I was able to get a good look at the 
minor differences VW used for the 2 engines. It's hard to believe, but VW used the 
mid mount in a bus even with the t-1 engine for the 71 to 73 models. :O  The 
case end mounts are more for holding the engine up, rather than doing any load 
bearing work. The mid mount does the majority of the work, both in torque and 
support. I hope this helps., and gives you something to think about.

Bob 65 Notch S w/ Sunroof and IRS
       71 Square, Formerly a 2 seat Roadster, now a T-3 Heb, pics can be seen 
at; http://volksrods.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2977 now awaiting a 2.0L  
t-4 engine transplant
       69 Square AT, daily beater

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