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OK, I can see the point. But Id think that having the engine mounted with the rear hanger, and mounts farther outboard than the tranny mount it would be sufficient. Its only about 30lbs more... so thats not bad, but I will have to make for some real beefy hanger mounts. Welding the wishbone on.. well, those arms are gonna flex a little anyway and put huge tearing loads on the welded joints on the torsion tube. Maybe its just that my welding skills arent going to make it for such a joint but Id think that a well thought out hanger mount would be a better idea. My 2 cents anyway, Keith > << My question is... why go though ANY of these mods instead of just beefing > up > or adding some additional rear hangers? Like stock ones? >> > > From what I understand (and I still don't really understand this part) the > type4 engine has a stronger bottom end, but a weaker case. :? It also weighs > more than a t-3 engine, so you need to do something about it. Also the t-4 is a > torque monster, that can break CV's, rip the floor out of a beetle, and break > other parts if hammered on (lots of lead foot driving). That is the main > reason for adding the "mid" mount, the torque that they produce will tear out the > stock t-3 stuff. :O And it's all down low in the rpm band, where you can > really use it. Remember, this engine was designed to push a bus thru the air, so it > needed some low end grunt. > > Bob 65 Notch S w/ Sunroof and IRS > 71 Square, Formerly a 2 seat Roadster, now a T-3 Heb, pics can be seen > at; http://volksrods.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2977 now awaiting a 2.0L > t-4 engine transplant > 69 Square AT, daily beater ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~