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Just cleaning and re-gaping the points will not fix the problem, I have seen this problem on other car and the only thing that fixed it was a new set of points. Of course I'll catch a bunch of flack over this but this is my story and I'm sticking to it. Phil __________________________________ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~