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i have also found that and extra 1/8 inch hole or two in the bottom of each door really helps evacuate the water! i put them in each door, followed by some sealer and never hear that sloshy sound anymore... even in the worst rain! Brian Fye-- http://www.geocities.com/menacefye 64 Notchback, 64 Notch Speedster, 67 Squareback, 73 Squareback, 73 412 Squareback Automatic, 74 412 Squareback Automatic, Wedgechop Drag Bug ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~