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:-) Hmmm have you seen Episode 3 yet? Keith > no, there are some type 4 guys out there that found a way to get a 2 inch drop of the nose with a modified early audi to vw strut combo. i would love to just cut the springs, but i won't ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~