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In a message dated 1/20/05 9:11:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, garrettfor@yahoo.com writes: << Also, I have a body lifted 69 SB with bay windows in back. I am going to loose the lift and get the car back to stock soon but I need to know if there is any sort of spacer that sits between the body and the tops of the shock towers in the front and the rear cause there are little 4" spacers that currently live in that space. but I wonder what should be there? >> Yes, the fronts are about 3/4 to 1 inch thick (both sides of both brackets) mounted on the upper beam. The rears are about 3/4 and 1 1/4 inch thick in the rear (mounted to the top of the shock tower). You do know you'll have to change all the bolts too. I hope this helps. Bob 65 Notch S w/ Sunroof 71 Square, now a 2 seat Roadster, pics can be seen at; http://volksrods.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2977 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~