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On 22 Dec 2005 at 22:12, Fiesta Cranberry wrote: > >Don't try to make sense of the voltages on > >the 2 wires in the plastic plug body; just > >ignore them. If the relay clicks they are > >working. > > It sounded like the clicking was coming from the relay under the back > seat, not under the steering wheel. > > >don't think there should be any kind of > >"boot" over the wire on # 87. > > On mine, terminal 87 has 2 prongs. The hard plastic "boot", which is > rectangular, keeps the 2 wires together. Odd, I don't think I've ever seen any kind of boot on those wires. Those are 2 red wires, right? > >If you had disconnected ALL the wires (5 > >wires) from that relay, then it should not > >have started unless someone else has > >monkeyed with the relay and bypassed it, > >which would be dangerous. > > No, I only disconnected the 2 wires from 87. One of those wires should join up with a brown wire and disappear thru a grommet in the firewall. That's the cable to the fuel pump. With the fuel pump disconnected, the engine should not start UNLESS, it was flooded and disconnecting the pump let it clear itself out enough to start. If this is what happened, then it would run for just a few seconds at best, running on the fuel that was already there, and then die. If this is what you're experiencing, then we should look for reasons why your engine is running rich. Possible reasons for FI running rich: Bad voltage regulator or generator - both already checked disconnected pressure sensor vacuum hose early car (68-9) with "A" brain (replace with a B) Possible spark plug or ignition problem making the car hard to start.... Anything here should familiar? -- ******************************* Jim Adney, jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, Wisconsin, USA ******************************* ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~