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In a message dated 8/23/05 11:00:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time, m@vw1600e.org.uk writes: << Hey, get it right! Guiness is Irish, and served cold. Its English beer that is served "warm". Well, at cellar temperature, which is actually lovely and cool (~12*C, ~55*F). :-) >> Sorry about that, I guess I don't know any better. But... 55*F IS warm beer for us. : ) It's actually best served at 42*F, but I like mine even colder, with a touch of slush in it, so the bottle starts to frost as it warms up. :D I just figured John might like something like a Guiness while he's on the other side of the pond. : ) I didn't think he'd bring me back any new Fastback pop out seals from T3D. Bob 65 Notch S w/ Sunroof 71 Square, Formerly a 2 seat Roadster, now a T-3 Heb, pics can be seen at; http://volksrods.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2977 69 Square, currently awaiting a 2.0L t-4 engine transplant ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~