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Russ wrote; You wouldn't have to pull the engine to pull the pump. Just the fan shroud. Just the Shroud? wouldn't the fan have to come out also I remember it not clearing the inner part of the housing. I see what you are saying but it is going to be pretty hard to get the fan shroud off with the engine in. Russ wrote; Just a thought. Check the oil pressure relief valves in the case. Is one of them possibly stuck open, or missing?? How can I check this, and how many are there, 2 right? one on the front and one on the bottom. And What should they be like when I get them out? Thanks guys David ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~