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On 30 Jun 2004 at 20:32, Lk Che wrote: > well i have the plate that came with the shifter which is an EMPI > trigger shifter and the one that was on the old shifter which is a sife > button shifter, and the plater for the trigger just has the operning > abd the plate for the old shifter has two little tab things that stick > up. i tried putting in the old shifter but i dont know what im doing > wrong, thanks for the replies, i need to get this car going. I'm gonna guess that you just tore this apart without looking at it carefully and that you don't have a manual to look at any photos. This is the manual that you need. It has photos of the parts involved and will get you back to where you started. Volkswagen Official Service Manual Type 3 Fastback and Squareback 1968-1973 published by Robert Bentley, Cambridge, Mass, 1974 ISBN 0-8376-0057-X / LPV 997 383 / VSQU (excellent book, complete and well written) -- ******************************* Jim Adney, jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, Wisconsin, USA ******************************* ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org