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On 21 Apr 2004 at 17:07, Neil Verdon wrote: > ok at work today i had conversations with two people one a brand new ford > owner and another a brand new vw owner both had tried to take there cars > for a 500 mile service to be told it no longer exsists the engines are > " bench run" from the factory thats why they go a full year or 12000 to the > first service in effect they mechanics at the garages are saying the cars > have there first service wilst still in the factory. I suspect what you're seeing is Male Answer Syndrome. They don't really know this, but they're making up a story to satisfy the customer. The important part is that a breakin period and special service is probably NOT necessary, but I'd bet that this is more likely due to better manufacturing proceedures. I doubt if every engine is run for any significant amount of time there. > i live in germany my local vw garage have a second to none reputation. I'm sure they do, and you're very lucky to have a good dealer nearby. -- Jim Adney jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, WI 53711-3054 USA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org