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hi ok at work today i had conversations with two people one a brand new ford owner and another a brand new vw owner both had tried to take there cars for a 500 mile service to be told it no longer exsists the engines are " bench run" from the factory thats why they go a full year or 12000 to the first service in effect they mechanics at the garages are saying the cars have there first service wilst still in the factory. i live in germany my local vw garage have a second to none reputation. neil verdon 66 sqr on irs. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org