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That last sentence from Russ says it all... and THAT is the problem, the stuff on the market today is of questionable quality... Berg ran into this problem bigtime several years back, the broke in all thier cams before they sold them to you. So yes, in the old days you were probably fine but with todays crap... you really need to be anal about it or ask yourself that one question "Do I feel Lucky?" Keith > > I have never broken in a cam shaft in my life. And I have probably built > more VW engines than anyone on this list. 3-4 a week for 15 years, and I > never had a single comeback. I last rebuilt the engine in my '71 back in > 1979, and it is still a pretty strong engine. VW never did either. If > the cam and followers are of good quality, it shouldn't need it. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org