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hmm, odd thing. guess it depends on the vehicle featured. In my golwing manuals the Hayes sucks and the Clymer is the better of them. Unless you have the Honda service manual. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Adney" <jadney@vwtype3.org> To: <type3@vwtype3.org> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 9:06 AM Subject: Re: [T3] new listee and new car > The Bentley isn't perfect; there are errors in it, too. The Haynes is a close > second, especially for early cars and those with OEM carbs, but the Clymer > isn't even in the same race. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org