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thanks to all for the suggestions and help, and a special thank you to greg who worked me until late in the night....the problem was the upper torsion bar (anti-sway bar) was loose on the passegeer side. tightend it up...and problem dissappeared... not much time to write now, will update with more info later -thanks kevin ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org