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>where they are? wouldnt the passing air draw air OUT? it would almost make >more sense for a small scoop to be there. or am i off base? The problem with the scoop is that it would not be so small. There are 27 louvers on each fender (at least on my 66 fenders). The average height of the louvers is 4.4 inches. They are 0.28 inches wide. This works out to 1.2 in2 per louver. Knock 10% for the radii in the corners and you are at about 1.0 in2 per louver. Total open area for cooling per fender is therefore 27 square inches. To get a scoop that fits over the louvers (there were aftermarket ones out there at one time) you would need a scoop that is 5 inches tall by 5.5 inches deep. You could argue about making it a little smaller if you rely on a ram air effect, but this is not true at idle. The scoop would also add to the drag of the car by increasing the frontal area and adding another bump to disrupt air flow and add to the turbulence (and thus drag) behind the car. Later, John Jaranson '71 FI AT Fasty (Jane - Darkside Project) '66 Square (Sophy - Daily Driver) About Half a Late Square (Organ Donor) http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jaransonT3/jaransonT3/ http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jaransonT3/notavwclub/ http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jaransonT3/2004Invasion/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org