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>What you say is true, but the standard type 3 case is still good enough, with >stock or +20% engines, to last 100+ kmiles, and to be rebuilt and go another >100+ kmiles. The more I research it, the more I agree with you, Jim. After all, I don't plan on autocrossing this car or anything, I just want it to be ultra reliable. I think the type 4 is a little to extravagant for what my goals are. Marc 1967 Fastback Is your boss reading your email? ....Probably Keep your messages private by using Lycos Mail. Sign up today at http://mail.lycos.com ------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <type3-off@vwtype3.org> For more help, see http://vwtype3.org/list/