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<x-charset iso-8859-1>Just did this last weekend on a non-VW van and I couldn't use the roof rack, since the raft was up on the rack. Used bike to ride shuttle on the raft run on the Truckee River (Tahoe area). Bicycle upside down, handlebars up near top of rear hatch, seat against rear hatch. In my case the handles were against the glass, seat on the metal just below the glass. It rode really well in this config, and I didn't lash the frame at all, gravity did it's work. I lashed the fork tube to the bases of the roof rack a couple of times (independently, for redundancy). and the handlebar ends to keep the front wheel from rotating. With the front end rigid to the vehicle, it just hung off the back and stayed there, even with my severe cornering tests. A cheap solution in lieu of buying anything. Whatever you do, test it in cornering conditions. I lashed a Honda CB350 to a homemade bumper cradle on my Sqbk, with handlebars lashed to roof rack. I couldn't back up, at all, but it made the Seattle to Sacramento trip uneventfully. Rear tire on the ground, of course. I tried this with a bus with no luck. Jeff '67 Sqbk -----Original Message----- If I'm gonna take the square (and my daughter) to Parma, we're going to bring my bike and my daughter's trailer bike . . . I've been thinking about bike transportation options. My '69 has the screw-on U.S. dealer roof rack. Jim had some thoughts about lashing 2" x 4" lumber to the bars that encricle the rack as a base for some bike mountings. ------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <type3-off@vwtype3.org> For more help, see http://vwtype3.org/list/ </x-charset>