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<x-flowed>I don't have the Bentley manual. I do have an ATSG Manual on the 003 and 010 automatic transmissions. It shows the siphon method for draining the torque converter. I was curious if anyone had developed their own method. The car is a 1969 Fasty. It belongs to my brother. He bought it some 5 years ago. We pulled the motor and tranny out soon after he bought the car. He had intentions of fixing it up rather quickly. Well, that didn't happen. It didn't run when he bought it. The previous owners didn't know anything about the car as they bought it for a project. Story was that the tranny was not working. The car even came with another tranny. We don't know if either transmission works. I have nothing to lose by tearing it down and rebuilding it. I bought the brake bands, clutch disks, seals, and Manual for ~$80 from http://www.bulkparts.com/. I spent a few days cleaning the 30+ years of gook off the exterior of the tranny before I started to tear it down. I have a feeling that it may have been something simple like incorrect fluid level, or brake bands that needed adjusting. The inside of the transmission is clean. The fluid is not burned or contaminated with gear oil. One strange thing that I did find, the oil filter on the bottom of the valve body was ripped. I don't believe any sections of it are missing. I will investigate that further. I have not opened the final drive yet. I may find other bad things there. I plan to clean the final drive unit, but not tear it down completely. That is a little background information on why I am doing this. I also have more time than money. It's been a year or so since I built anything substantial. This is my winter therapy. I'll be working on the engine next. I also has the 30+ years of gook to be cleaned off. It's no wonder the poor little car stopped working. Tim <I trust you have the Bentley manual? It tells how to do all these <things. This is quite an undertaking. What year is it and what went <wrong that brought you to this decision? _________________________________________________________________ Join the worldâs largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org </x-flowed>