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<x-flowed>>Its the same idea. You should understand that it's not <just a simple open >hole. If you drill a hole thru the rocker to the <interior of the car you >will >probably pass thru 8 sheets of steel. There's much more <there than meets >the eye. This is exactly what I wanted to know. On the Bug, there's not as much there...its pretty much that the channel IS the sill, etc. Sounds like that car may be too much of a project for a novice.....unfortunately Heck, perhaps I'll offer the guy some money for the 1500s engine, that way if I ever find a nice notch or squareback 1500s body that some PO has put a 1600 into, I'll have a good engine. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org </x-flowed>