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<x-charset iso-8859-1>BenH=> i like it, but ... Thanks, Ben (and thanks Everett for the link). It looks like you had to do some body bending to get it in there (or was that from a previous installation? Would it fit and install OK if the apron weren't bent? Can you give me any numbers or perceptions on performance changes with this setup? Engine temps, maybe? What size are the pipes? If this thing works, I may just have one custom-made ... Steven Ayres, Prescott AZ '66 Grosse Karmann ------------------------------------------------------------------- Too much? Digest! mailto:type3-d-request@vwtype3.org Subj=subscribe </x-charset>