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<x-charset iso-8859-1>Daniel B=> the amount of gunk under there => is truly spectacular. => What would you use for this? Spray oven cleaner is nicely aggressive with this stuff. I don't think I'd recommend it with the tranny in the car, though, as it'll take off any undercoating and it could damage your pan paint. Gunk makes some pretty good products too, although you'll still be under there with a scraper and greasy grit in your teeth, pretty likely. Steven Ayres, Prescott AZ '66 KG1600 ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org </x-charset>