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A word of caution: be careful when testing these out of the car. I got a little too enthusiastic testing one with a propane torch once... it expanded really quickly, and promptly broke its seal. It was ruined. -Greg -------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mine did an incredible blue explosion on the stove, parts of it shot out and broke some drinking glasses and plates, cool. LEON MARTINEZ 1969 SQUAREBACK EFI/AUTO SAN DIEGO AND TIJUANA