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Well, The naughty panther is home! We drove her homewith no problems, exept that the ATF fluid is ultra-low, and the tranny was alittle noisy, I assume because of that. A little white smoke on acceleration, but no clouds.. Where do I refill the ATF? Is it under the rear seat? Is there a ccatch on the seat? I can't get it up, with or without the pull-loop. Anyway, the first of many questions for other type 4 folks.. Is there a type 4 list???? :-) Micah Micah 68 vw squareback hearse-to-be "Betabel" ___ __/[] [] []| ' O----O-I ~ ~ ~ Jake - 1974 412 squareback.. "Naughty Panther" ___ __/[] [] []| ' O----O-I ~ ~ ~ http://www.mindspring.com/~micah-ra/Betabel/index.htm http://www.darkreflectionsdesigns.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/