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Yes, same bumpers - the T1 Ghia uses ours! But on a Ghia you need the cut away corner front bumper; the vertical edge ones get too close to the body. They came in in Aug '71 for the '72 MY. I suspect they had to change them to fit the Ghia; I expect the production numbers were not that large to make it worth new tooling for these heavy items - I understand they had to be rolled, as they were too heavy a gauge for pressing. Dave. UK VW Type 3 & 4 Club http://www.hallvw.clara.co.uk/ ------ ------------------------------------------------------------------- Pitch in! Send your pledge of support! mailto:support@vwtype3.org