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Re: [T3] Update on engine problems and question about piston rings


<x-charset iso-8859-1>If youve gone as far as pulling the cylinders off dont bother putting them
back on... just get a new cylinder kit and replace them... its dirt cheap
($100)US and  I cant imagine much more even overseas... putting the jugs
back on with the rings oriented differently *could* cause some problems and
generally isnt reccomended

With the new cylinders you do need to adhere to the new breaking procedure.


Keith

Keith Park

Top Notch Restorations
topnotch@nycap.rr.com
71 Squareback (with no empty nipples!)
65 Notchback (still suckin its gas!)
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----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Seaton <mark.seaton2@ntlworld.com>
To: Type3 Mailing List <type3@vwtype3.org>
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 6:17 PM
Subject: [T3] Update on engine problems and question about piston rings


> Hi  folks,
> Hope you all have a very happy New Year!
>
> Just a little update on my engine problems. You will recall that I was
> getting nasty knocking noises while the engine was warming up and if I
> pulled away hard. I checked the compression and found 1,2 & 4 OK at
> 120-130PSI, but 3 at 80. I was also having great difficulty getting the
> carbs tuned and balanced. Well I didn't dare drive it any more so I pulled
> my socks up and dropped the engine for a bit of investigation. Well it
looks
> like I'm luckier than I probably deserve. I was dreading a pulled stud,
> burnt valve or cracked head. It seems that it was just that the head had
> come loose-2 of the nuts on 3 were barely finger tight. I pulled the
> cylinder to check the rings were OK and they looked fine. The bores of 3&4
> seem hardly warn at all- you can still see the honing marks all the way
up.
> The only damage I can see is a little cutting/impact marking on the face
of
> no3 piston mirrored in no3 combustion chamber- looks like someone might
have
> dropped a washer or something in the inlet which wouldn't suprise me as
> there was a 13mm socket wedged between the fins!! The damage seems only
> superficial though and I am happy to just re-assemble and pray. I also
found
> that whoever assembled the engine last did not use cylinder gaskets and
> there were no gaskets on the inlet manifolds- the manifold on 1&2 was
loose-
> you could wiggle the carb around (don't know why I didn't notice this
> before). No wonder I couldn't tune the carbs properly. Incidentally, if
> anyone needs a ring compressor I found that a "high-torque Jubilee" clip,
> with the worm mech cut off and with short 3/16 ends bent out at 90 deg,
> clamped with mole grips works really well- the only sort I could find to
buy
> at short notice were the long ratchet style which wouldn't have worked.
>
> Anyway, my main reason for this post is that with the cylinders off I
found
> that the top compression ring (ATE) was not as decribed in my Haynes
manual.
> It has a groove running around it and this was filled with what looked
like
> carbon deposits. I tried to clean this out with a scalpel blade but it
> seemed really well stuck- like it was supposed to be there. Then I started
> to wonder if it was in fact meant to be there - a graphite implant to help
> lubricate the top ring? Anyone have any ideas- should I clean it or leave
> it?
>
> I am really looking forward to putting the engine back in- what with a
> properly tightened head, properly tuned and balanced carbs (with no air
> leaks) and re-engineered heat exchangers (someone had welded on new bits
of
> tube to go into the silencer with 23mm bores instead of 29 like the tube
it
> was welded to- quite a restriction!) I think I will really notice the
> difference!
>
> Thanks for all the valuable info and keep on T3ing.
>
> Mark Seaton
> Orange and Rust, slowly getting tamed, '73 NonFI FB, London
>
>
>
>
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