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My original heat exchangers started life with a collar clamping an asbestos ring to seal the rear end of the heat exchanger shroud (not the exhaust joint clamp). The Type 1 heat exchangers don't have these and often give trouble on a Beetle or Bus. If you don't have anything like this on your heat exchangers, it's worth making up something similar. Dave. UK VW Type 3 & 4 Club http://www.hallvw.clara.co.uk/ ------ ------------------------------------------------------------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/