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Re: [T3] Calipers


On 7 May 99, at 22:15, Sonny8oy@aol.com wrote:

> jim writes:
> 
> > Rotate the pistons and make them right!
> 
> i can't. it's too hard. they only need turned a little (one by about 5 deg., 
> the other maybe 20 deg.), but i can't find anything that will do it. last 
> time i tried i screwdrivered my finger. i thought i recalled keith saying a 
> year or so back that he had a tool designed to rotate the piston, so i asked 
> a vw mechanic of 35 years i know if he had had such a thing and he hadn't 
> heard of it. 

They're called piston rotating pliers, but I have never seen anything 
except pictures of them. I just use a metal bar and tap them around 
into place. But of course I'm doing this in a vice after rebuilding 
them, so they move rather easily.

> >  > this should make them more efficient though, because of the increased 
> >  > pad-to-disc contact area, shouldn't it? :-)
> >  
> >  Sorry, no matter how I try to redefine "efficiency" I can't seem to 
> >  make this work out in your favour.
> 
> normal pad contact area:
>  __________________
> |                                    |
> |__________________|
> 
> my super-efficient increased pad contact area:
> 
> |
> |__________________|   (my ascii draðéÚ't up to it, but imagine a line 	
> 								between the 2 
> open ends: this line is longer than the horizontal line in the first picture, 
> thus the surface area of the pad is greater :-)

I understand your point and I kind of thought this was what you were 
thinking, but I'm afraid that you have been assuming that larger 
contact area will give better braking. This is not the case. The 
frictional drag is only a consequence of the total force on the pad 
and the pad area has no effect on it. For example, the later 
calipers, with larger pads, do not make stronger brakes. They DO give 
longer pad life.

Your tilting pad will not give longer life, because you will have to 
replace it sooner--since it wears at an angle.

So there should be no effect on braking force (effectiveness), and a 
loss of pad life (efficiency.) So I'm afraid this still doesn't work 
out. Fortunately there is a simple solution. Get the calipers 
assembled correctly and everything will settle down.

Jim
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Jim Adney, jadney@vwtype3.org
Madison, Wisconsin, USA
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