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If you have no gap chances are that your valve seat is about shot. You should also be noticing a loss of power in this case”“ ̀ y not be too much. On my Square it happend on the first exhust valve and the other three were doing OK. It may be worth a look see to check out the valves. You really don't want one of those to go, it really tend to cause a lot of noise!!!! Ed Hanis '73 Square (Daisy) ------------------------------------------------------------------- Too much? Digest! mailto:type3-d-request@vwtype3.org Subj=subscribe