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Today, after a mild drive 46 miles to work, my temps with the new Mesa cooler were at 150F. The mesa is a 72 plate cooler with a 10 inch fan attached. On the way home I got adventurous... 100 mph for 30 miles, makes for a quick drive, then the temp check... (drumrole..................) 163F Woohoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is with no stock cooler or the 8 pass that I use to have in place. Toby, you are gonna love this set up! Vader 64 Menace ------------------------------------------------------------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/