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Thanks for the suggestions.... they came off eventually with a little persuasion ;-). Then I discovered that the pistons were seized in the cylinders.... A torch, and some special chemicals that instantly dissolves rust and.... nothing. I took a mallet and smashed one of the pistons in. The cen\Ï(d in and fell in the case, but the outer rim of the piston was still seized into the cylinder wall. I had to smash the cylinders apart to free them form the pistons. Bear in mind the crank was seized solid and bugged not an inch during all of the heat and pounding. Upon closer inspection it became clear to me why they were seized... sugar. The sad fate of this old girl was at long last discovered. This was confirmed by our service manager too who used to be a diesel mechanic before he became a Harley guru. Heck, I had to cut through the wrist pins, as I could not get them to budge either. After removing the pistons, heads and jugs (not in that order ;-) I sprayed the innards with some good rust eating chemicals, within minutes the crank freely turned. The rest of this evening was spent removing the cooling shroud, fan and oil breather. Total time: 3 hr.. Tomorrow we'll split the case. Tuesday, sandblasting begins. By the way, blasting that case is ok, isn't it? Any precautions? or can I basically blast any surface. (silicone beads -- all we have) Thanks for all the input.... Charlie ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org