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Steven Ayres wrote: > ToddD=> I haven't compared the weight of the type3 engine Vs. type 4 > => engine ... there does not see°Ä all that much difference... > > Having lifted both types, fully assembled, on and off stands within the > last year I can say with some authority that there's a big difference. A > T3 is a grunt for two guys; a T4 is the same and then some with *four* > guys. > You had four guys ?? lucky you... It was only me and a friend :-) I realize fully assembled *with* heater boxes and muffler the engine is heavier than a type .... but A LOT of the weight actually if from the heater boxes ( lots of aluminum and cast iron in them suckers....... ) if these are replaced with type 4 car heater boxes (pre heaters) the weight would decrease considerably..... I have compared the weight of the two... and if the tin is cut off of the type 4 car heater boxes the remaining exhaust is basically a header ( all round pipes leading to the trapezoid flanges ) and the bus muffler is not all that much larger than a type 3 muffler..... Todd Daley 71 Squareback 71 Fastback ------------------------------------------------------------------- Too much? Digest! mailto:type3-d-request@vwtype3.org Subj=subscribe