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ToddD=> I haven't compared the weight of the type3 engine Vs. type 4 => engine ... there does not seem to be all that much difference... Having lifted both types, fully assembled, on and off stands within the last year I can say with some authority that there's a big difference. A T3 is a grunt for two guys; a T4 is the same and then some with *four* guys. Steven Ayres, Prescott AZ '66 KGhia 1641 '78 Riviera Campmobile 2L FI ------------------------------------------------------------------- Unsubscribe? mailto:type3-request@vwtype3.org, Subject: unsubscribe