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Are they better them my finikly FI system? (that get's bad gas mileage any way) >>>Luke! Luke! Beware of the Dark Side, Luke! The way of carbeuretors seems easy, familiar, powerful; but beware, for down this path lies difficulty and hidden cost. Much fabrication must be undertaken, and once down the path, it is difficult if not impossible to come back! Fuel injection is very efficient, and once you're in tune with it, it's a reliable ally! The Millenium Deathrich still delivers 24.7mpg with whonky points, and tuned she gives 26.8; and out on the Kessel Run (highway) she gives up to 32mpg! Let the list know what your symptoms are, we can help you! Unless you want to go ÛÅöhand get hp out of your 3, then go for it, but it's not going to be much easier than trouble shooting your FI, especially if you're only after dependability. It's your decision, but if you're looking for dependable, FI works. That, and it's fun to mess with American car motorheads! 'Ha! A beetle on steroids,' say they. 'Ha! A Type 3 with disc brakes and EFI!' you can respond. I don't know. Guess I'm weird. Chewbacca ------------------------------------------------------------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/