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Like I said, I was probablÏÆ. it wrong. "most people cant solder properly" so for the rest of us I think a good crimp does just as well, again, as long as the joint isn't bearing any load. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Keith Park <TopNotchResto@worldnet.att.net> Cc: type3-d@vwtype3.org <type3-d@vwtype3.org> Date: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 10:20 PM Subject: Re: [T3] FI plugs >I work with the worlds expert in soldering at GE. most people cant solder >properly but when done right it is the ONLY way to go for reliability in >the harness connectors. The copper wires work harden at the crimps and >thats why they break, the soldering doesn't do this. > >Keith > >---------- >> From: Michael Geurink <geurink_brasil@bigfoot.com> >> To: Latherow, Robert <RLatherow@essilorusa.com> >> Cc: type3-d@vwtype3.org >> Subject: Re: [T3] FI plugs >> Date: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 12:38 PM >> >> That's what I thought too. Soldered is nice on a circuit board or if >you're >> plumbing with copper, but in a wiring harness in a harsh engine >environment, >> particularly the vibration. IMHO the solder method is just too brittle. >If >> you really want to do it make sure there is no stress on the solder >joint, >> of course. Maybe I was just doing it wrong. I think the best way to go >is >> to use crimp-style butt connectors & fold that joint back on itself like >an >> S with the butt splice in the middle & wrap it nice & tight with black >tape >> to keep the crud out. The entire load should be divided between the tape >& >> the insulation about an inch either side of the connection. Forgive me >if >> I'm being overly basic. I understand your desire for connection >integrity >> both in strength & cleanliness, but my solder joints were constantly >> breaking with moderate stress. Like I said, maybe I was just doing it >> wrong. Butt-splice connectors do just as well with less hassle I think. >> Crimp & solder might not be a bad idea. Hmmm, maybe oxy-acetylene & some >> good old welding rod...coat hanger maybe? >> >> Mike >> -----Original 8C5 ---- >> From: Latherow, Robert <RLatherow@essilorusa.com> >> To: 'type3-d@vwtype3.org' <type3-d@vwtype3.org>; 'Michael Geurink' >> <geurink_brasil@bigfoot.com> >> Date: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 9:37 AM >> Subject: RE: [T3] FI plugs >> >> >> >??? >> > >> >Why? I was brought up among the -half-assed-if-not-soldered-school of >> >my-dad-built-crystal-radios-in-the-50s. >> > >> >-rj >> > >> >>---------- >> >>From: Michael Geurink[SMTP:geurink_brasil@bigfoot.com] >> >>Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 10:27 AM >> > >> >>.... And for >> >>goodness sakes, don't solder. >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Too much? Digest! mailto:type3-d-request@vwtype3.org Subj=subscribe >