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Whatever you do DONT use the Empi's!!!! its the single biggest and most expensive mistake I made on my Notch. They are of VERY poor quality... imagine this: Polished aluminum with NO clearcoat! You'll be polishing them for hours every time you so much as wash the car.. even the painted spokes waterspot. Keith ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org